ARS W4INF
Blog of assorted thoughts and experiences

MFJ-1621, not impressed with indoor

July 9, 2008 14:13 by W4INF

Well, I finally got my 1621 setup outdoors, it tuned up VERY nicely on 20m and 40m, but I have yet to hold a QSO on it.  With the short physical length of it, I do not think it has much of a chance in the efficiency department.  I do think, Ill continue to check it out and at least see what RST reports I can get off it.  I have a feeling, the Hamstick Dipole although it is not the greatest, will yield better results.

When I did take it inside, I sat it at the other end of the house, leaving all for jebis 50ft of coax straight and not crossed (as suggested by other owners), sat it on the bed and tried to best to tune it to a decent SWR.  No go, didnt happen.  So the "dream" of having a decent indoor portable antenna, IMHO, is squashed.  Stay tuned for more.


Categories: Ham: Antennas

MFJ-1621 here.. but not tested yet

June 14, 2008 18:41 by W4INF
I received my MFJ-1621 last week, but had not had time to hook it up.  As soon as I get some time, I hope to hook it up and test it out.  It has been promised by reviews that is can operate "on the bed in a hoteltu room", so... Ill try to replicate the situation and post my findings.  To be fair, I will also test it in a Picnic Portable sitaution to see how well it works there.

Categories: Ham: Antennas

3 weeks into the hamstick doublet

June 12, 2008 19:29 by W4INF

Well, its been about 3 weeks or more since I modified the hamstick dipole into a hamstick DOUBLET by feeding it with abt50ft of 450ohm ladder line.  It tunes 40m - 10m just fine with the Z-100, however  condx has been so very horrible that Ive yet to make enough contacts to verify how "well" it works.  It is now up to 20ft AG, and I can attest this is the BEST elevation Ive found that makes it tune great.  Five 4 foot sections of fiberglass poles that are Army surplus are holding it up right now. 

Once I can get some more testing done, Ill post some results.  


Categories: Ham: Antennas

The "W4INF Hidden House Loop"

May 25, 2008 12:32 by W4INF

I hear of operators quite often that need an antenna for HF, but live in a restricted subdivision. This means they cannot have obvious antennas, obviously! I hear a lot of advice, most are geared toward a dipole in the attic or a flag pole vertical.

All systems have there unique pros and cons. But I recall seeing an operator that encircled his roof with wire and made a loop from it. I searched and searched, but could not find the article agian. Well, being the tinkerer that I am and having the supplies I needed, I decided to build the "hidden house loop", test it on the air and post it if the results were promising.

As you may guess, since you are reading this the results must have been good. Good enough to go through the trouble of building and posting the article. The formula for a loop antenna is 1005/Freq in Mhz = length in feet. For 40m, that is 143.5 feet of wire.

We live in a fairly small house with a typical roof, the house is 40ft wide and 24ft long, giving a 136ft parameter. Include the slope of the roof to follow and I guess it would be about the 143 feet or so needed for a 40m loop.

My attack plan for the project is pretty much, "build it like a doublet and work it!" That is, have the antenna at least resonant on the target band, feed it with balanced line and work it multiband. That was the desired outcome anyway. So I did just that. I encircled the roof with #14 insulated stranded and brought it back to 25ft of 300ohm twinlead from Radio Shack. I took that to my home brew 4:1 air core BALUN, coax back to the shack (abt 20ft), ran it though an LDG Z-100 and started tuning on 40m.

Holy cow, I do not think Ive ever built an antenna that tuned this low... Abt 1.2:1! All of 40m tunes up. So I check the other bands and 40m-10m tunes up very nicely. So I try 80m... Keeping in mind the antenna is 1/2 the length needed for an 80m loop I didnt expect much, however it did tune all of 80m very nicely. That does not mean much, I learned the hard way... I can tune a dummy load to low SWR, but that doesnt mean it will radiate!

Condx has been horrible the last several days, and over the course of the following days I would test this on several bands to get a feel for how well it performed before posting this article. Results are that on 40m, it typically worked very well usually swapping equal RSTs with other stations (599 for a 599, 579 for a 579, etc.). That usually indicates it is working reasonably well. It was only last night I finally cabbaged up a contact on 80m. I didnt expect much, but I got good reports... however I was about 2 s units down from the other station. Well, that is okay... 80m is at least workable. One contact on 40m SSB gave the the time to go out and switch over to my 90ft Doublet and I was abt 2 s units UP from the hidden house loop.

Several things we need to keep in mind... The idea of this antenna is number 1, stealth. If you can, put up a long wire antenna as high as you can for best results. However, not everyone can do this. 2, be able to work multiband. Both aspects were accomplished. However, RF inside the house was present. No promises how it will interfere with other devices so you will need to keep that in mind. Also keep in mind, this install is only abt 15ft above ground... Getting it to work as well as it did was not expected.

 

 

Start off with leaving a tail at the start point.
Start tucking wire under the shingles, tuck and run.


I know.. the gutters are a mess, but.. look here.
All that is invloved is tucking the wire under the shingles.


My dedicated assistant.


No staples or special clamps are used, just tuck
the wire. It should hold no problems.


1/2 way across the back of the house. This is
not that hard of a project, it just takes time.


Keep going all the way around, nothing special,
just tucking wire under shingles.


Just another view


About 45 minutes later, I am back where I started.


Feedline in place, a short screw anchors the top.


Ready for solder and trimming.


I didnt like the way the wires were able to sway,
so I anchored one of the pigtails.


All done!


Back to my HB 4:1 BALUN (as seen else where on
this website).


The bottom is anchored with a short screw also.
The twinlead lays flat along the house is is hardly
noticable at all.


From the back angle, you can hardly see
the black wire.


Foul weather about to roll in... but anyway,
can you spot the HF antenna?




Further operations indicate that Id rather switch back over to my doublet, it does a good measure better, however I am pretty happy with the "W4INF Hidden House Loop"! It listens and talks very good for what it is, it was very inexpensive and pretty easy to put up. As an extra bonus, I do not 'need' to disconnect the rig when storms roll in... I figure if the hidden loop takes a hit, I have more worries than the rig getting toasted. I doubt it would attract lightning any more than the gutters would, but much less than a 50ft plus roll up tower. Also, even under strong winds (we recetly had 45mph gust) the antenna is not likely to come down or break.

Categories: Ham: Antennas

MFJ-1621 On the way!

May 19, 2008 12:34 by W4INF

Portable antenna, with good reviews... The MFJ-1621 even survived as top antenna in a shootout inluding the BuddiPole!

 

 



Read the article in this PDF, "IN SEARCH OF THE BEST ANTENNA: PART II"

 

Download the owner's manual in PDF


Categories: Ham: Antennas

First try: Hamstick Dipole

May 17, 2008 17:03 by W4INF

I just got my hamstick dipole adapter today, and my second 40m stick.  I put it up as high as this short mast would take it, only 10ft above ground, and gave it a try.  Without much attention to tuning the stingers, I just ran it on my Z-100 and tried a few CQs.  Nothing responded, and the band sounded pretty lame.  Odd too, because the sunspot number for today is 34, up from ZERO just yesterday, and it was that bad all week...

 


 

 

So anyway I was not about to give up.  I tried and tried later, no response... I brought up the bottom of the band and decided to just work CW off it and see what RST I can get.  Finally, I landed a contact.  I sent them a 599 only to find out they were running 50w, I got a 579 with 100w.  

Well, more test to come and the dipole really needs a bit more elevation, so I hope to acquire two 10ft sections of mast and put it up a whopping 20ft AG and see what it does!

Stay tuned for updates.  But the short of it is, it does work.  I need to fiddle with the stingers a bit and put it higher for a better evaluation!

 

 






Categories: Ham: Antennas